It Just Doesn't Stop - Pit Haters Are illogical

My friend shares a petition on a page for the defense of Pit bulls, and this woman Marie casually comments like it doesn't mean anything. Marie, If you must know the only feelings hurt were yours and DBO's founder. Then again we all know truth hurts doesn't it?

Where is she getting this information? You cannot tell a pitbull based on looks, a DNA test is required, or did you miss that memo? Furthermore you didn't answer our friends question about DBO...

So, I'll ask. If DBO supports human life, why does she stalk and attack people, along with affiliating herself with a known child killer and people like you?

Fair question, would love to see it answered. Pit's do not have a high prey drive sweety, unless you consider their origins of HERDING high prey drive, then again they don't kill live stock unless TRAINED wrong.

I believe we covered this before unpredictability are caused by the dog fighters who train and breed their dogs to be aggressive... It is the dog fighters fault that we have this problem. Do some research Marie.

15 out of 16? That's a bit off, fact is there were no PIT BULLS in the news, but then again since the Bull Mastiffs and cane corso's along with other breeds are under this label, it would be accurate. However, they are not pit bulls, APBTS weren't in the news this year unless it was a dog fighting raid bust that had rescued APBTS. Would you like to continue as my friend asked...

I surely didn't see you say they weren't bred for fighting, I saw you clearly state that Dogfighters - Pit fighters do this. Which is fact, yet you are correct Marie is missing the key points that you have stated.

This is what advocates deal with on a daily basis from these haters. The illogical spurting of falsified statements.

Marie I do believe you have a nickname don't you, Something along the lines of Mad-dog? I wonder why that is.

Like my friend stated, keep repeating you are doing a great impersonation of a PARROT. 

DogsBite.ORG- Part 2- enough said for now

DogsBite.Org- Part 2

The followers, or should we say cult have been told to harass pro pit advocate pages. Lately they have been targeting a page that represents NZ, American Pit Bull Terrier Assn INC. Screen Shots down below to prove how unstable and illiterate these little cult trolls really are. These are some of the Usual Suspects, which are in affiliation with Colleen Lynn. APBT Inc and Our Team have had some long heated debates with them, defending once again our breeds that have been slandered.

That certainly is not the latest research, as you can all plainly see those articles are from 2011 and 2012. On top of the fact it isn’t even studies, it is medical records and notes that MD’s have taken over a course of a year, documenting dog bite incidents, does it say pit bulls? Yes, do we think they know for sure it was a Pit bull? No, because it has been proven that there are those who cannot distinguish a pit bull from a white boxer, or Dogo Argentino or even a bulldog or even a terrier.

http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

This is the original Article, this is also were Colleen Lynn spends most of her time supposedly “researching”.

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389.full?
Apparently Lynne was blind to one detail this article stated such as this:
“Past evaluations of different forms of regulations have led to conclusions that BSL is ineffective in reducing dog-bite injuries of varying severities”
Shocking to see those whom support BSL say that it is flawed, oh my!

Did Lynne also forget to mention the TEXAS STUDY was a flawed one and has been thrown out, case in point:

(Dr. Bonnie Beaver, a professor of veterinary medicine at Texas A&M University and an expert in dog behavior, described the study as flawed. Beaver, a former president of the American Veterinary Medicine Association, who led a national task force on preventing dog bites, has testified against breed-specific bans before state lawmakers.

“These are serious injuries to humans, and I do not mean to belittle the seriousness of the problem seen at the hospital,” Beaver said. “However, the dog-related data is seriously flawed, and are used at will to try to prove a specific point of view.”
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Pit-bulls-reputation-takes-new-hit-1370739.php)

Raghavan, is a BSL enthusiast of course Raghavan would partially lie about studies that have been discontinued or thrown away, due to the flawed aspect.

Did not read the studies, yet quotes Raghavan. Interesting to say the least, the simple copying and pasting of statements without one ounce of legitimate proof supplied. Who is to say that these people actually obtained it from Ragahavan and not Colleen?

Banning any breed of dog would not help the issue, people would just move on to the next desirable breed, so where would this leave us? Genocide, wiping out every single dog in existence this is what BSL would be capable of, yet these people fail to realize this. This is why we fight; this is what keeps us going, to fight against BSL to prevent this Genocide from happening.

This is our reality, and until these people wake up, our fight will continue.

Who said we were ignoring the studies? Peer-reviewed, please Lynne read what you have said. PEER-REVIEWED, this is saying that these studies are nothing more than NOTES. Notes tend to have misinformation, and propaganda behind it, since those who are viewing it have the same narrow mindedness as the ones who wrote it. We are open to discussion and opinions yet if it is repetitive, we tend to turn off our attention to you. AWA was and has been honest behind their reasoning you are just failing to see the points behind it.

As APBT pointed out, the Spanish study showed nothing of what Lynne Stated. You didn’t have access Lynne? I think it was more along the lines, of not wanting the truth being stated.

Joanna claims she follows the bible by heart, we would like to know which one she follows, because spewing out hate toward a creation of the lord sure the heck is being hypocritical to us, we have actually taken the time to read the bibles out there. We may not worship the same superior being, but we do not turn a blind eye to most of the lessons. Joanna is also a supporter of one of the trolling pages such as this one:

We suspect that she might even be a co-creator since it has a bible statement included in the description.

We wonder if people realize that “Satan” did not create anything, he was created, 

became jealous and rebelled against “God”. He was then tossed from the heavens to rule the city of Hades ergo “Fallen Angel”… As we have stated before Wendy, that page was not an April fool’s joke.

To continue where we were, more screen shots on the way, thanks to one of our team-mates to provide them.

Veterinarians do not resist Breed restrictions yet they do have a difference in opinions, about this issue. Yet Luke feels as though no one in that profession should have an opinion or a right to voice his or her opinion. Are we saying all Veterinarians are not swindlers or frauds? No, yet those types are few far and in-between. Comparing the Tobacco, Gun, and Hotel industry to Veterinarians is like saying a Drama Actor portraying a doctor can do real surgeries. Luke your statement is flawed.

Please explain how a DOG can hijack an idea or a reputation, it’s improbable, A dog cannot communicate like us, ergo has no voice to talk or make speeches pertaining to how one feels. We as humans are the ones who can HIJACK ideas or reputation and slap it on dogs. However, in this instance, nothing was hijacked. One more thing, you spelled organization wrong.

We also forgot to mention Luke; the ones who misidentify the pit bulls are those who cannot distinguish the differences, since MEDIA shows dog pictures that are of BULLDOGS and or a DOGO… So, who is actually making it worse for whom?
Funny we do not remembering slandering any Chihuahua, yet, if you have to get technical, you do realize those small cute dogs were bred to kill snakes and protect their families right, so since they were bred to protect and kill an animal, Should we ban them too? Because that is what you trolls are stating.

(Any Animal that has been bred to guard, or kill another animal, should be put to death) On the other hand, are we wrong about that Luke is that not what you trolls are trying to get across?

The most ANYONE has ever said that was pertaining to the Chihuahua is:
(“any dog can bite, including the small superiority complex dog like the Chihuahua”) and that is far from slandering. Do we condone those who compare other breeds? NO! 

We do not worship pit bulls Luke, we are merely trying to state the obvious truth, that it is people’s fault that these dogs are in hot water.

So on top of breed discrimination Luke is also a racist, typical friend of Dawn James who sports a swastika (Nazi).

No explanation needed.

Really now? We're protesting against the sterilization law? Funny I see signs that say END BSL, not sterilization laws. Colleen take your pills, you're hallucinating. For those who think BSL is just a sterilization tactic, is truly blind! It is more than sterilization it is Genocide, it is punishing responsible owners and ignoring the true problem...(Dog Fighters). It is ripping dogs from homes and putting them to death when there is a BAN established.

Is this who you truly want to follow? One who spreads lies, and propaganda, one who follows a biased blogger who writes for maultalk, or adds a picture with an opposite meaning? Truly the human race is doomed then.

Really Colleen Lynn now you're attacking a pit bull rescue? Tia doesn't and never will support BSL. We do believe we have covered this before. However Just in case here is recaps of what Villalobos official STATEMENT was.

Now On the other hand here is what Villa Had to say in their email:

Villalobos Rescue Center

Yesterday

IN REGARDS TO THE WESTWEGO PIT BULL ORDINANCE - This is in part, the email that we sent to Councilman Glenn Green. As you can plainly see, there is nothing here that says we support BSL. What so many are doing is twisting my words of "showing support" as in we were supportive of the fact that he removed the BAN ordinance and was willing to meet halfway with rules such as spay/neuter, etc. providing it applied to all dogs. Again, in part this is the email that was sent......

If this ordinance is specifically for the Pit Bull breed, then the "bad guys" will get rid of their dogs to avoid any fines, violations and trouble from the law. They will then move on to a different breed. Right now the next most popular breed is the Cane Corso Mastiff. We're seeing ALOT of them in the area now. They're quickly becoming the next breed of choice for these "bad guys". So what then? We will have to create a Mastiff Ordinance? Or a Rottweiler Ordinance? And the list goes on. So what I propose is you put forth what Los Angeles did. and that's create these rules for all dogs. Why single out one breed? Why not make it safe for all dog owners and their dogs and the neighbors, etc? There is no reason that ANY dog should have to live on a chain or remain un-altered to create more unwanted puppies. Why not make it so that these ordinances come into effect so that animal control and law enforcement and rescuers have some leverage against owners who treat their dogs horribly?

So I'm sure you're getting bombarded with all sorts of ideas but I want to assure you that we are a group of level headed people that are here to assist you with anything you need to help create a safe and happy environment for the people of Westwego and their dogs.

Respectfully,
Tia Maria Torres

So would you like to again tell us how Villa was supporting BSL, Colleen? Your Lies are catching up with you and your cult, and everyone can indeed see it now.

For those who have anymore Screen shots or "information" on this woman don't hesitate to share it, names will be kept anonymous unless you wish to be known.

Thank you for supporting us in everything we are doing. We will continue to try our best to bring you the truth and facts. <3 VFTB - TEAM <3

Still They Mock, Still They Spit Vile

Colleen Lynn- Not a dog expert, not a responsible person. Affiliates herself with known criminals, such as Jon F. Along with known pit haters, who knows nothing of these dogs.

What research and data do you collect? The only thing I have seen on your page is selective news articles that you share. You link to pit hating sites that you own and your cult lackey's own. You and your lackey's are not dog experts, the only thing you have right in your about section is the SELECTIVE breeding issue that has been happening with "DOG FIGHTERS".

Jean Pierre- you never use to stick up for the pit type dog, you always bashed them in every way you could.

Dreyer Painting- I myself know for a fact that there is such a thing as a rescued pit type dog. I have volunteered with my ACO, I have volunteered at shelters, and yes many cannot be saved, many are euthanized due to animal and human aggression, because of these PIT FIGHTERS out there. I own a Staffordshire bull terrier who hasn't bit anyone or any animal yet. He is 3 years of age and has no signs of aggression. He was literally rescued off the streets 3 years ago. So, yes there are such a thing as a Rescued Pit Type Dog out there.

Karen Branson- You have one thing right, it is the shelters/behavioral specialists responsibility to do thorough testing on any dog that is adopted out, not the Volunteers.

As you can see the owner did nothing to help, didn't break up the fight, didn't use methods of pulling the bigger dog off the little dog. It is the owners fault in this scenario.

Again with the uneducated statements by the known "Pit Haters".

Vanessa- that blog is full of garbage- lies- falsified statements. ER physicians see dog bite victims nearly everyday, and I am going to say it here, a majority of those bites are not by the Pit type dog, but by German Shepherds, Labradors, Rottweilers  Collie's, Small dogs and on occasion a Pit Mix. So should we start banning all dogs that bite for the first time? Any dog can bite, however it is up to the owners to take the responsibility for their dogs.

News reports- never give out the full details of the event of what has happened, ER only goes by what the Victim of a dog mauling/attack/bite has stated, and even then the DETAILS are not clear enough due to the trauma that they went through.

So targeting only Pit Type Dogs while other dogs are in the news, does what now? Feeds into the bad reputation that these dogs are getting, you only pick out the bad side of the stories and not the good. There have been reports out there about Pit type dogs saving people from fires, from drowning, from robbers and other issues. The stories you share are biased, and not all these attacks are by Pit type dogs, more along the lines by MIXES and or dogs who've been used in Pit fighting, selective breeding for the aggressive trait which equals a game fighting dog.

There are always signs of aggression in dogs that are not game fighting dogs. Maybe if you had done a little bit of researching you would have known that.

Further more Colleen Lynn, you keep changing the story of how you were a victim of a dog attack... Which is pointed out here: http://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/109-collen-lynn-seattle-animal-control-records

You lied and stated that the woman walking the dog moved to the side, she did not. The dog walker was unaware of you, and you Colleen Lynn could have moved across the street, but no instead you spooked the dog and the woman, and this lead to the dog bite.

Your first statement:











Your Second Statement:

You Slowed down and Stopped? Your first statement says you kept moving. Again all statements and records can be found here:  http://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/109-collen-lynn-seattle-animal-control-records

Here is some more proof of how unstable this woman truly is With a majority of her statements and she blocks and bans anyone who supports the Pit type dog, without even letting... "US" the advocates get a word in edge wise.http://www.whoiscolleenlynn.com/blog.php?page=3&blogid=9

The truth about Colleen Lynn is this: She is nothing more than a web designer social activist. She is not a dog expert, and the more people who follow her instead of researching on their own, the more dogs will be in danger of being put to death because of her FLAWED statistic system. Pit type dogs might be on the radar now, but when they aren't anymore, she will go onto the next target. Just like the BSL.

The little things

So, the trolling begins apparently, on April 1st this page was created as a joke. I assure you it is not a joke, these "trolls" continue to do these pages to annoy those who advocate for the Pit bull breed. That is all they are to me, a little pest with nothing better to do, but spread untruths about the pit type breeds.

They get their statistics from dogsbite.org, which by now many people have come to realize that the owner/founder of that site is no dog expert and because of her malevolent ways dogs have been suffering.

This page owner takes quotes from the bible and twists the meaning of the verses.

"Look out of the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who would mutilate the flesh"  This verse is when Jesus was being nailed to the cross by the ROMAN DOGS. He was referring to those who have betrayed him (Judas) and who is nailing him to the cross.(Roman Soldiers)

This was stated by one of our admins at the VFTB, which by the way very well stated my dear.

This is mind boggling how this page owner can like Advocate pages that speak for this breed. Oh that's right they like these pages to keep track of what we STATE on our pages. Do you guy's have a life, or do you Troll the internet for a living?

As you can see this page owner is linking to an out of date bite statistic that is found on Dogsbite.org. Which might I add none of her statistics are up to date. For him to bring up Satan as a creator is moronic, Satan is a fallen from grace angel and has been left in charge of as well all know Hell.

People like these Pit haters love to try and convince everyone else that never had this breed of dog that these dogs are monsters.

All dogs no matter what breed is a reflection of their owner, If you have a vicious dog you have an owner who showed no kind hand to their dog, nor did they properly socialize or train their dog.

The one thing I have an issue with is those who defend a page that cause harm in the media sense to these breeds who have had no choice at what owner they get. As I have stated before, the media and some people can't tell the difference between an APBT or a white boxer.

With all those supposed dog attacks out there, How many do you really think was caused by an APBT? Not many only 5% were by APBT'S and those 5% were due to the fact that they were trained to be aggressive toward another dog and or human. And out of those %5 some have been rehabilitated and have become therapy or K-9 officers.

If you see more pages like that one, please do not hesitate and let us know. We are still working on the details of  who owns this pathetic Hate page.

So We are back to this again?

I swore, I wasn't going to do this, however, since a majority of people are falling for Mafalda's BS of not being a Hater toward the Pit Bull Type Breed, Let's just take a Look at what she said, Shall we?

And clearly you have no idea what a Dog fighting dog is. This dog was not set up for a Dog fight, he was merely not socialized correctly or dog friendly. Which is the OWNERS FAULT not the dogs. Those great men you are congratulating, one is the owner the others are his friends... Might I add, they were PULLING the dog off of yours When you clearly did nothing but take Pictures. Again Who is setting up who?

Dog fighters leave their dogs on the leash when they street fight, Dog Fighters carry BREAK STICKS and so there goes your theory of them being a DOG FIGHTER. They are nothing more then Uneducated Irresponsible Owners. Like yourself who also had YOUR DOG off the leash, Who's to say that YOUR DOG didn't start this fight, since you only took pictures midway through the scuffle. Just Saying, I don't know why other people haven't come to this conclusion either.

Mafalda, Which is it 20 or 25? You're not here to insult? You did insult and you blamed the dog. You did not suffer as much as your dog did, How did you get bitten? No Seriously HOW!? You didn't do anything but STAND THERE AND TAKE PHOTO'S!!! Afterward you REPORTED IT TO THE PRESS and then the POLICE.

What the hell kind of person reports it to the PRESS FIRST? No please tell me, I would love to know. Crime Reference Number: JH/9478/2013 yes I did call them, and they told me that you didn't report it right away, that they found out everything on Saturday, And on Sunday this was in the DAILYMAIL news site. Monday Morning My time which was 3 am, the Police had his picture on their facebook page. So please tell me how she went DIRECTLY to the POLICE with this Incident? She didn't, and for those who are confronting Mafalda', Don't bother, she is deleting and blocking people. You will get nothing from her.

Truthfully Mafalda I don't have to know you to insult you.Because of your actions and what you have done, That's plenty for me to INSULT you, since you INSULTED my BREED.

Your dogs wounds would have been proof enough of the attack, You could have waited until both dogs were pulled from each other to take a picture of the Man who, might I add PULLED his dog off of yours.


All of you involved MC and the 4 other people, You are all IRRESPONSIBLE, and because of this, BOTH dogs were injured.

ENOUGH SAID....

Pit Haters The Usual Suspects

The Usual Pit Hater Crowd Up To Their Old Tactics once again. (Big Eff'ing Sigh).
The Comments Below are from this Article - Do Pits Deserve a bad rap (Fox News)

Jon Felosi- Known Criminal-  a known drug addict, a rip-off artist in the Secure Server Tech Business, He says he doesn't work there anymore, Trust me he still does and he rips people off, just Google His Name... Now he is known for his Pit Hating antics. PUBLIC FORUM posts, are allowed to be shared, DEAL WITH IT.

Quite Frankly Jon, you are an idiot. That Meth isn't good for you. You should seek help and fast. You say that pit advocates state that Pits are blank slates, Funny I have yet to see any of my Pit advocates say anything like that. Where exactly is your information coming from? No wait I know, from Colleen Lynn only she would have the brains for this type of comment. (or lack thereof) There is no such thing as Genetics? That's hilarious, if there wasn't "Genetics" we wouldn't have dogs, and by the way it's called EUGENICS you idiot. Look it up and school yourself for once, or are you that brain damaged?  

Definition of EUGENICS : a science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human/animal mating) of hereditary qualities of a race or breed
First Known Use of EUGENICS 1883 By Francis Galton.

Should I dumb it down for you? Scientist mess with the genes to create a breed or race, meaning they improved and spliced dogs genes making their AGGRESSIVE trait less DOMINANT. Understand yet?

When pits are aggressive it is do to training by DOG FIGHTERS, the conditioning and extreme training they do to these dogs brings out the AGGRESSIVENESS in them. PITS are not Human aggressive unless TRAINED, but PITS can be DOG AGGRESSIVE. Due to the DOG FIGHTERS, it has everything to do with TRAINING and SOCIALIZING. Your biased mindless drivel is invalid. Please TRY AGAIN. This time use your own personal EXPERIENCES and NOT Colleen Lynn's RANTS. No creature or human is a blank slate, all life has a genetic coding to learn a skill or improve their potential. LEARN equals TRAINING.

Last Time I Checked Mr. Felosi you were not a Geneticist or a Dog Expert. Each Dog Is different in their own UNIQUE way, they all have their own PERSONALITIES just like HUMANS.

(SIGH) Not all americans are like JON, yet all pit haters are, since they get everything FROM COLLEEN LYNN. Just saying, please do not get Americans involved with this Stupidity, a lot of AMERICANS are fighting against this travesty called PIT HATERS, who rant and rage over the Net about how a VOICELESS animal Attacks without provocation. Geno has one thing right Animals are like a canvas not a blank canvas though But a Canvas that needs work. TRAINING once again falls into the category  ALL dogs are an extension of their OWNERS. Train and socialize your dog correctly and you will have a VERY LOVING non aggressive dog.

Nanny Dog is not a myth by the way, yet the first dog wasn't a PIT BULL, it was a STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER and a SAINT BERNARD. The first Nanny dog in history was not in 1971 good try though Jon, I saw those blogs of yours, it's pathetic. First NANNY DOGS were in the 17 to 1800's.

I don't even know why you Anti Pit Pricks even care what kind of dogs OTHER PEOPLE own in their HOUSEHOLD. It's in their HOUSEHOLD not yours, if you don't like the dog Cross the street, AVOID those people. Don't Verbally or Physically ATTACK the person or the dog. We don't tell you how to RUN your METH head filled life, don't tell us what to do.

So taking statistics back from 2010 makes you right? You do realize no link to those articles, makes you look like a fool for copying and pasting from a Pit haters blog that gained all their news/statistics from Colleen Lynn. ONCE AGAIN she is not a DOG EXPERT nor a geneticist. Yet you idiots keep copying and pasting from her site. Did you know Dr. A H not using full name for privacy purposes. Threw out their Statistics BECAUSE they were FLAWED. And Colleen Lynn just reposted them, that is all, she didn't even GIVE CREDIT or a LINK to the ORIGINAL source. No she just linked it to her Bullshit Site Dogsbite.org and her PR.COM hers not anyone elses. Again Colleen Lynn is not a DOG EXPERT.

What does that say in the BEGINNING of that PARAGRAPH? Dog Bite Victims' GROUP, Where on god's green earth does it say she is a DOG EXPERT? Her research is based on BIASED news reports, that hold FALSE information. She is a Vile woman, seeking to destroy any dog, any breed, that has even done a first time biting offense. She is HORRID. Bottom Line not the type of person you want to get YOUR DOG FACTS FROM.

Harve, Harve, Harve!..... Still drinking the stupid aren't we? Which side are you actually on my frenemy? The Pro Advocates or the Haters? You confuse me sometimes with all the facts and tools out there to research information on the Pit type dogs you chose to go this route? Linking to that blog, you're hilarious, that guy is not a dog expert, he takes what the Dog experts state and turns it around in his cynical posts. I mean for heaven's sake, HARVE, he links to Craven desires, a nut ball ranting loon who has nothing better to do but SURF the web looking for PIT advocates Blogs and writing negative insane, incoherent posts. And again wasn't the 1980's was more along the lines mid 17 to 1800s only some photos have been clarified from that time period.

This breed is not unpredictable, they show signs, yes I am going to say it. LIKE ANY OTHER dog out there, they show signs. If you can't identify these signs, then you shouldn't own a dog, or You should get TRAINING in the dog body language. Again they were not bred selectively for that "explosiveness" that you non dog experts like to state.

They were bred for HUNTING AND WORKING, WHICH led them to be a valuable asset in the PIT area of the RATTING GAMES. Look it up in a book would you! Stop getting all your statistics and information off the freaking internet, there is such a thing called BOOKS and REAL LIFE PEOPLE who have been EDUCATED in the behavior of DOGS.

Stop blaming this voiceless animal for what SICK TWISTED DISTURBED people have TRAINED THEM to do. Get off the computer for once and actually go out and speak to People in the real world who know the TRUTH, go to your library or BARNES AND NOBLES and READ A BOOK.

Enough Said...